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Dec 21, 2017

Eric Dickerson stood along the Los Angeles Rams sidelines during the 42-7 victory over the Seattle Seahawks. Even though he played in Indianapolis during his career, Dickerson was cold. He was shivering. But he looked like a proud father looking at a Rams team he was so happy to get back to Los Angeles.

On SCHOOLED with the Professor, Dickerson talks about how the Rams have bounced back from a horrible first year in Los Angeles. Dickerson opens up about his struggles with the Rams front office last year. Disappointed with an offense that he thought had the design of a high-school offense, Dickerson was critical. The team told him they didn’t want him along the sidelines anymore while Jeff Fisher was the coach. Fisher lost his job.

Sean McVay has brought one of the most exciting offense into the league since the St. Louis Rams when they were "The Greatest Show on Turf." Dickerson also talks about the current state of running backs and how different it was when he was having his Hall of Fame career.

Dec 14, 2017

The Los Angeles Rams come to Seattle on Sunday to determine which team is going to win the NFC West. Get ready for the game with a history lesson from a player and coach who has been on both sides as SCHOOLED with The Professor catches up with Nolan Cromwell.

Nolan is a former Rams defensive back who made the league’s all decade team. He’s been an assistant coach twice with the Rams, and also coached in Seattle on Mike Holmgren's staff.

Cromwell starts by discussing the buildup of the Rams. He goes into great detail into how good Sean McVay is as a coach. In Green Bay, he coached on a staff with Jon Gruden as an assistant. Nolan makes the comparisons.

He gives an evaluation of the Seahawks and where they are. Russell Wilson has many comparisons to Fran Tarkenton. His opinions are interesting because he gives the specifics of how they play and how tough they were to stop.

Dec 7, 2017

This week on SCHOOLED with the Professor former NFL cornerback Ronde Barber (now a semi-finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame and an analyst for Fox) educates us on pass coverage in the NFL.

Ronde talks about how the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two-deep zone defense worked under Tony Dungy. He details how the Cover Two has morphed into the Cover One, Cover Three defense used by the Seahawks and several teams in NFL. And he goes into the evolution of the cornerback position back when he played and where it is now.

Nov 30, 2017

The Seahawks/Eagles game is scheduled for prime time Sunday, so we're going prime time with former Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb. You can hear Donovan on ESPN Radio every Sunday starting at 9 PST.

On this week's SCHOOLED, Donovan goes in depth describing how Andy Reid coached him into being one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He breaks down the rapid rise of Carson Wentz, talks about the differences in the current offenses from when he played, details how more trickery is involved with the play calling, and talks about the play of Russell Wilson.

He also breaks down the benching of Eli Manning, the future of Kirk Cousins and what he thinks about Dak Prescott in his second season.

Nov 23, 2017

With Apple Cup Week here, it was a great time to catch up with former Washington State quarterback Ryan Leaf on Schooled with the Professor.

Leaf was the perfect Cougar to discuss the Cougar-Huskies rivalry. He remembered his first start being against the Huskies in 1995. In great detail he takes us through the three-year process of getting the Cougars to the point in which they could beat the Huskies. In 1997, the Cougars, with Leaf at quarterback, beat the Huskies and won the PAC-10 title and a trip to the Rose Bowl.

Leaf gives a great scouting report about Luke Faulk, whom he respects for his toughness and leadership. Ryan gives an incredible breakdown of the differences of the offense he ran for Mike Price and what Mike Price is going with the Air Raid in Washington State. Leaf also told us he might have better served himself by staying at Washington State for one more year as opposed to turning pro early. 

Nov 16, 2017

This SCHOOLED with the Professor, we're going old school: the evolution of quarterbacks with veteran sportswriter and winner of more than 250 journalism awards Lew Freedman.

Lew is publishing a book that comes out December 15 that does a great job of discussing the history of passing offenses in the NFL. "Baugh to Brady: The Evolution of the Forward Pass" is going to be a must read.

What I respect is Lew’s great feel for the history of passing offenses and each stage of quarterback’s development. Sammy Baugh was the first true passing star in this NFL. Freedman talks about how he opened the eyes of NFL coaches that a quarterback can do more than just make handoffs. Baugh had great throwing skills and was probably two decades ahead of the league. Freedman takes us through the year. He talked about how Johnny Unitas set up the look of current NFL passing offense. He talks about how the 49ers and the quarterbacks of the 1980 moved the sport more to passing. We get into a discussion about current passing offenses.

Nov 9, 2017

I have the fortune to be the main fill-in on Movin’ The Chains on Sirius XM NFL radio with is hosted by Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan. With the NFL at mid-season, it was a perfect time to catch up with Pat and discuss the trends of the league.

Kirwan remains high on the Seahawks chances of winning the NFC West even though he has plenty of great things to say about the Los Angeles Rams. On SCHOOLED, we discussed the problems with offensive lines in the NFL this season. He went into great detail to identify why scoring is down in the league and the problems offenses are having. We talked about the dropoff a team has going from a good quarterback who is injured to a backup. Kirwan offered some great suggestions to improve the quality of play.

Nov 1, 2017

Dr. David Chao is one of the best injury experts around the National Football League. Former team doctor for the Chargers, Chao breaks down NFL injuries as they happen. He joins me on Schooled with the Professor to discuss the current state of injuries in the NFL.

Chao explains how he watches games and then replays times when a player gets injuries. Not only can he pinpoint the injury but he can determine the length of time the player might be out. That’s huge for fantasy players, but the information is vital for all fans.

Chao goes in depth on how the studies the tape. He’s about 90 to 95 percent accurate on his conclusions. We’ll discuss some of the top injury trends in the league on Schooled with the Professor.

Oct 30, 2017

On Schooled with the Professor, mid-season is a great time to catch up on trends and what is happening on the field. That’s why it is a great time to catch up with Daniel Jeremiah of the NFL Network.

Jeremiah is one of the best in studying drafts. We took that information from the past couple draft and how they have played into this season. We talked about the difficulty of developing offensive linemen, and both agreed that more than two thirds of the league have offensive line problems.

Jeremiah talked about how great the current rookie class of cornerbacks is and how quickly they are making impacts on teams. Shaquille Griffin of the Seahawks is a classic example. We talked about how the NFL is on a great cycle of getting good, young running backs and how they are impacting the older running backs in the leagues. Trends. Analysis. A look ahead of next year’s draft. Great stuff on Schooled with the Professor.

Oct 18, 2017

Seven weeks into the 2017 season marked a great time to catch up Mark Schlereth and talk football. Schlereth is now at Fox doing game analysis and studio work.

For Schooled with the Professor, we got into a lengthy discussion about the bad state of offensive lines in the NFL. He recently did a Philadelphia Eagles game and came away thinking the Eagles _ at least for now _ might be the best team in the league. He is a big supporter of Carson Wentz, the Eagles quarterback.

Last week, he did the Los Angeles Rams-Jacksonville Jaguars game and went into detail why he thinks the Rams are for real. He has a great take on why Rams coach Sean McVay is a star in the making. He also sees some hopes for the Arizona Cardinals, who seemed to wake up with trade for Adrian Peterson.

Lots of great football talk on Schooled with the Professor.

Oct 11, 2017

Since his retirement from the NFL, Drew Bledsoe is aging well like the fine wines he produces.

Bledsoe joins John Clayton to go through plenty of topics: As you probably know, Bledsoe earned Rookie of the Year status with his Doubleback Winery. Doubleback earned instant acclaim and national awards for its Cabernet Sauvignon. On SCHOOLED, he revealed that he, Damon Huard, Dan Marino and Rick Mirer all wanted to get in the wine business together.

On the football side, Bledsoe goes into detail on how he was involved with the rebuilding of the New England Patriots, a franchise that had been struggling much like the current Cleveland Browns. He discusses how the Patriots had a vision of what was needed to improve and the Patriots turned it around with Bledsoe. Drew also talks about how he is developing two sons at quarterback, one at Washington State and another in high school.

Oct 4, 2017

Brandon Stokley was a great slot receiver in the NFL. He’s also a great story teller and historian. Stokley joins me on Schooled with the Professor at an appropriate time. Peyton Manning is having his statue unveiled at Sunday’s game between the San Francisco 49ers and Indianapolis Colts. Stokley was Manning’s slot receiver but he’s also became one of his best friends. He goes into great detail giving anecdotes on how hard Peyton made his offensive players work. That work led to a lot of wins and trips to the playoffs so the extra work had its reward. Stokley tells some great stories about Manning’s love for practical jokes. Stokley discusses the evolution of the slot receiver over the past 15 years. He gives an analysis of the top teams in the AFC West, which might be the best division in football.

Sep 27, 2017

It was a great time to catch up with Steve Hutchinson on SCHOOLED with The Professor. It's hard to believe Hutchinson has been out of football for five years, but he's still heavily involved in the league, working in the personnel office of the Tennessee Titans. He's also in his first year of eligibility for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. A seven-time Pro Bowler, Hutchinson and former Seahawk Kevin Mawae have chances of making the Hall this year.

Hutchinson gives a Hall of Fame performance on Schooled. He discusses how the offensive line grew and helped take the Seahawks to the Super Bowl in Detroit. He goes in depth explaining his strange departure to the Minnesota Vikings via the transition tag. Hutch also goes in depth discussing the state of the offensive line in the NFL now. He looks at the current offensive line problems both as a former player and a current personnel evaluator.

Sep 20, 2017

Former Seahawks owner John Nordstrom joins us this week on SCHOOLED with the Professor and he gives us great insight on the NFL franchise he started, and how he and others reached out and got billionaire investor Paul Allen involved in buying the Seahawks to save football in Seattle.

The timing of this podcast is perfect. On Sunday, the Seahawks celebrated the 20 years Allen has owned the franchise. Nordstrom goes into great detail on what was needed to bail the Seahawks out of a bad ownership situation with former owner Ken Behring, who was trying to move the team to Los Angeles. Nordstrom tells us his favorite memories of being the owner of the team, reveals how closely he follows the team now, and tells us about one of the former Seahawk players who lived near him: Marshawn Lynch.

Sep 14, 2017

I know I'm The Professor, but I sure gained a lot of knowledge about NFL offenses through the years listening to Brian Billick, former Baltimore Ravens coach - and one of the great offensive minds in the game - who now works for the NFL Network.

Class is in session in this week's edition of SCHOOLED with The Professor. Brian gets into why offenses got off to such poor starts in the first week of the season, why it's hard for teams to develop quality offensive lines, and we spend some time on the Seahawks own offensive issues.

Brian also gives us his opinions on some of the best defenses in the NFL. He likes what he sees with the addition of Sheldon Richardson. 

Sep 8, 2017

Long time Raiders beat reporter Steve Corkran educates us on Schooled With The Professor about Al Davis. He wrote the book, "Al Davis, Behind the Raiders Shield," which just came out this week. Cork tells us plenty of the inside stories about Davis' successes and his failures. He goes into the selection of Marcus Allen in the draft. He details the hiring of Jon Gruden and how Davis consulted his employees about trading Gruden to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Corkran also discusses some of the struggles he had in his final years hiring coaches. Most importantly, he talks about some of the highlights of how Davis made the Raiders one of the best and most dominant franchises in the NFL.

Aug 31, 2017

Justin Forsett joins this week's edition of Schooled With The Professor. The topic is running backs and how the position has chance since Forsett played football. He retired after a nice, nine-year career. Like so many football players, he started at the age of seven. He’s watched the workhorse backs who would get 20 or more carries a game. But by the time Forsett got into the NFL, things changed. More teams started to have running back by rotation. It has gotten to the point where last year only one back averaged more than 20 carries a game and only 13 had 1,000 yard season. Backs have also watched their salaries drop. Still, Forsett had fun. As a small, quick back, Forsett was a perfect role player in a rotation. He was also a college and Seahawks teammate of Marshawn Lynch. Forsett tells some Marshawn stories. He also talks about his Shower Pill company that is freshening up athletes after workouts.

Aug 24, 2017

In this week's edition of Schooled with the Professor, former Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik the toughest time of year for a general manager: final roster cuts. Dominik details what Seahawks general manager John Schneider has to decide on in determining a final roster. The job isn't easy. Dominik goes into great detail taking you through the daily planning and long-term planning needed to craft a winning team. And this year is different. Instead of having two cuts (one to 75 and another to 53) the NFL has only one cutdown day that follows the final pre-season game. Dominik discusses whether this is a good decision or a bad decision. He also covers how the salary cap plays into final roster decisions. Listen to Schooled with the Professor and get educated on the life and times of an NFL general manager.

Aug 16, 2017

Pro Football Focus grades and analyzes every single player on every single play - almost instantly! 30 NFL teams use their analytical data, and this week on SCHOOLED, Senior Analyst Steve Palazzolo joins fellow stats junkie "The Professor" John Clayton to explain exactly how PFF does what it does.

Then, the guys turn to the Seahawks. They break down defensive schemes, how the O-Line is graded, why Michael Bennett is one of the best defensive players in the game, and where Russell Wilson ranks among the league's top QBs.

Aug 9, 2017

The Professor's first guest returns to SCHOOLED! Seahawks radio analyst and NFL Hall of Fame QB Warren Moon joins John Clayton to discuss Kenny Easley's HoF induction and career, how Moon's induction changed his life, and the upcoming Seahawks 2017 season and what they expect to see from Russell Wilson this year.

Jul 26, 2017

Author Ryan Holiday's books "The Obstacle is the Way" and "Ego is the Enemy" have been embraced by many coaches, GMs, and athletes including John Schneider, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, and Nick Saban.

On this week's SCHOOLED, Ryan and John discuss why his philosophies seem to translate so well to to the game of football. Holiday says he was surprised by how popular his books were in the sports world, but understands that every team is constantly trying to gain the mental edge. He explains the importance of letting go of things that are out of your control, learning from adversity, and how the Seahawks and Patriots have achieved success doing so.

Check out Ryan's new book "Perennial Seller."

Jul 19, 2017

Super Bowl Champion DE Chris Long joins John Clayton on this week's SCHOOLED. Chris talks about growing up in an NFL family, winning a Super Bowl with Tom Brady, and how a chance encounter with Joe Buck at a bar in Tanzania led to him launching Waterboys: a foundation that has funded 23 wells providing drinking drinking water to 69,000 people in East Africa. To learn how you can help, visit

Jul 12, 2017

Sports Illustrated writer, editor of, and NFL Hall of Fame voter Peter King has covered the league for over 30 years. On this episode of SCHOOLED, Peter and The Professor discuss the early days of their now decades-long reporting careers and how sports media has changed over the years. Then, they pull back the curtain on how NFL Hall of Fame voting works and whether they see any changes coming in the future.

Jun 28, 2017

Should college athletes get paid? On this week's SCHOOLED, The Professor talks with Josh Luchs, a former sports agent and author of the book Illegal Procedure, in which he reveals some of the moral dilemmas he encountered as an agent and his strong feelings that college athletes should be paid. Luchs recalls to John the moment he realized that college athletes were being paid and that he would have to pay them as well if he wanted to be competitive.

Jun 21, 2017

Wade Phillips, son of legendary coach Bum Phillips, is a Super Bowl-winning defensive coordinator and former head coach who has been in the NFL since 1976.

On this week's SCHOOLED, The Professor talks to his old friend about the hard-hitting defenses of the Houston Oilers & Pittsburgh Steelers of the 1970s, Wade's 2016 Super Bowl win with the Denver Broncos, and which athletes have impressed him the most in his 41 year career.

Pick up Wade's new book "Son of Bum" wherever books are sold.

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